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مُساهمة من طرف mohamed abdelazeem في الخميس 03 يونيو 2010, 4:36 pm

Dear colleagues:
I have a simple question. I have two points with known coordinates from Egyptian Surveying Authority (ESA) forming a baseline about 1100 m and the Nile separate between them. When I observed these points by using total station (one as occupied point and the other as back sight point) I found a difference in the coordinate of the known point (back sight) about0.45 m in 2D. However, when I used GPS in static mode the coordinates are the same as the known coordinates. Which of those two methods are true and why?

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مُساهمة من طرف Admin في الخميس 03 يونيو 2010, 6:28 pm

mohamed abdelazeem كتب:Dear colleagues:
I have a simple question. I have two points with known coordinates from Egyptian Surveying Authority (ESA) forming a baseline about 1100 m and the Nile separate between them. When I observed these points by using total station (one as occupied point and the other as back sight point) I found a difference in the coordinate of the known point (back sight) about0.45 m in 2D. However, when I used GPS in static mode the coordinates are the same as the known coordinates. Which of those two methods are true and why?

First: what do you mean by "Nile Seperaion" ?

Second: the GPS-based coordinates are in three-dimension (3D), i.e., on the Earth surface. While, the Total-station's coordinates are in Two-Dimension (2D) which are projected on a plane surface. So, the differences are due to the map projection process. Then, the question is not "which of them is true" but it is: in which case I use each type of coordinates? There are a lot of sujects in our forum about this issue, and you are encouraged to search and read such topics.

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مُساهمة من طرف mohamed abdelazeem في الجمعة 04 يونيو 2010, 4:54 pm

Dear admin,
Thanks for your response. Nile separation means one point in the east bank of River Nile and the other in the west bank of River Nile. Second when I use GPS I used ETM map projection system and 2D coordinates ( easting and northing) so that I see that the map projection process is not the reason because I used the same the map projection system used by ESA. Therefore my question if the Nile surface bend the laser beam from total station it gave these errors?

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مُساهمة من طرف Admin في الجمعة 04 يونيو 2010, 10:10 pm

mohamed abdelazeem كتب:Dear admin,
Therefore my question if the Nile surface bend the laser beam from total station it gave these errors?

Of course, NO ! The Nile has nothing to do with the coordinates' differences. I guess you need to read about the effect of the scale factor when combining GPS and total station observations. One of such subject is in:

http://surveying.ahlamontada.com/montada-f2/topic-t394.htm

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